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Post by yasha on Apr 19, 2012 15:01:35 GMT -6
Name of Jutsu: Eight Trigarms 64 Air Palms-Hakke Rokujūyon Fushō Rank: A Type: Tai Element: Description: Hazama release a rapid fire burst of invisible chakra in extreme succession hitting nearly every body part and more at once. This can also be preformed in many directions instead of just a specific area. Range 15 meters Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Eight Trigrams Heavenly Spin Step-JHakkeshō Kaitenso Rank: A Type: Tai Element: Description: A variation the Eight Trigrams Rotation however Hazama has learned to propel himself forward while spinning allowing himself to move as if he was a spinning top. Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Chakra Needle Hell Sphere-Chakura Hari Jigoku Tam Rank: A Type: Tai Element: Description: This jutsu is a combination of his Wind Needle Assult jutsu and the Eight Trigrams Empty palm. Hazama will form a five small orbs of chakra from the tip of his finger tips. He will then fire them forward at the target. As they travel forward each of these orbs will expand and release a great amount of wind needles. Range:25 meters Exclusive:
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Name of Jutsu: Gentle Fingers-Jushushi Rank: A Type: Tai Element: Description: This is a variation of the Gentle Fist technique called Protection of the Eight Trigrams 64 Palms. Instead of streaming razor sharp beams of charka in a weaving motion, Hazama simply focuses chakra in the tips of his finger while releasing a steady flow of chakra. Using this to aid in his hand movements Hazama's style allows him to remove use his hands as if they were blades allowing him to remove the flesh or limbs of his enemies with ease. Range:6 meters Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Eight Trigrams Empty Palm Cannon-Hakke Musho Taiho Rank: A Type: Tai Element: _ Description: This is the Advanced Version of Eight Trigrams Trigrams Mountain Crusher. Hazama gathers chakra inside one of his palms and releases a powerful intense wave of pure chakra. This technique take a while to build up the necessary chakra. However when it is released though it follows the principle of Jyuuken allowing it to pass through chakra. Instantly causing internal damage.
(Takes two post to build up the necessary amount of chakra) Range: 35 meters Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Rank: A Type: Tai Element: Wind Description: Hazama adapts his wind chakra needle technique and builds up chakra from all 361 points of chakra and releases them in all directions hoping to damage his targets with the high speed assault. Range:20 meters Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Gentle Fist Hellstep-Juken Jigokuso Rank: A Type: Tai Element:_ Description: Hazama has trained his leg muscles to be extremely powerful from his taijutsu training. Using his muscles to provide, as strong, but powerful boast that increases his movement speed. As such Yahsa generates enough force behind hm to move 40 meters in any direction he pleases. When he has stepped foward he will attack swift and strong producing enough force to put him instantly back to where he originally appeared. As a result an after image effect is produced. Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Eight Trigrams Empty Palm Blast-Hakke Musho Ha Rank: A Type: Tai Element:Wind Description: Yasha adds his fuuton affinity to the parent jutsu known as Empty Palm. By adding the wind release into this tech it greatly increases it's size to that of a human body. The blast is so powerful that each time it's used, it physically pushes Ryuoujaback a distance of Fifteen Meters. The impact effect is strong enough to leave a large radius crater when it connects with a solid surfaces such as concrete. -Range 25 meters Exclusive:
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Name of Jutsu: Eight Trigrams Heavenly Whirl Wind-Hakke Tenpuu Rank:S Type: Tai Element: Wind Description: asha causes the same basic that apply to his clan's kaiten tech, except accelerates the rotation speed, and adds an affinty into the jutsu. The result is a powerful offensive three-sixty degree tornado, that expands up to 20 meters, and has a pull in effect of up to 10 meters. This enhanced fuuton kaiten produces winds so strong that it easily produces chainsaw like lacerations upon anything that happens to touch the spinning vortex effectively slicing through nearly any substance such as bone, wood, iron and steel. As the jutsu continues to slow down the mighty kaiten produces it's signature throw away flinging the shred, and torn micro remnants of it's victims. After using this is unable to use Ninjutsu for 2 post. Exclusive: Yasha
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Name of Jutsu: Wind Needle Assault-Fuhari Tokkan Rank: B Type: Tai Element: Wind Description: By upgrading the chakra needle technqiue Yasha has added his wind affinity into the jutsu. It fires a spray of the futon chakra enhanced senbons at top speeds radily firing them at a continuous spray of 30 per second. These fuuton senbon are extremely fast and hard to spot. Each needle makes a high pitched whistle making it easier to indicate. Taking the principles of gentle fist this jutsu is capable of piercing through chakra based substances. Range:35 meters Exclusive: Yasha
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Post by Rock on Apr 19, 2012 15:17:41 GMT -6
All your Jutsu need a Japanese translation as well, so go out and find that. Your last jutsu also needs a rank.
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Post by yasha on Apr 19, 2012 17:52:03 GMT -6
Thanks for your help Mr. Naminda. Jutsu Translations added.
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Post by Rock on Apr 19, 2012 18:53:53 GMT -6
Eight Trigarms 64 Air Palms-Hakke Rokujūyon Fushō -- Just making sure you know, this jutsu loses all ability to hit tenketsu or the chakra circulatory system since you're using a different shape transformation.
Eight Trigrams Heavenly Spin Step-Hakkeshō Kaitenso -- Bump up to A-rank
Gentle Fingers-Jushushi -- Need to put a range for this technique. And if it uses 'blades' to cut up opponents, does that mean it loses all of its defensive abilities as well?
Eight Trigrams Empty Palm Cannon-Hakke Musho Taiho -- Needs a range
Wind Chakra Needle All Directions Piercer-Futon: Chakura Hari Shihōhappō Ketatamashi -- Bump to A-rank. Give a range.
Gentle Fist Hellstep-Juken Jigokuso -- "59 meters" is oddly specific. Anyhow, severely lower that range, somewhere under 15 meters. Even if you are a Taijutsu specialist, moving "59 meters" in an "instant" is a little much without something like Gates or an S-rank technique.
Gentle Fist:Soul Tap-Juken Seisoho -- Bump up to S-rank and give some large amount of set back from using this jutsu. My reasoning is that to be able to puncture the tenketsu so they constantly leak with every strike is even beyond the measures of a regular Hyuga technique. The RasenShuriken for example had sharp needles that sliced up the chakra circulatory system, making the target unable to perform chakra based jutsu anymore (if they happened to survive). So to do that with even more accuracy than a RasenShuriken (due to the Byakugan's insight) is a tough feat. So again, bump up to S-rank and give a large backlash to using the jutsu (like you damaging your own tenketsu and chakra system each time its used, decreasing your ability to use jutsu severely).
Eight Trigrams Empty Palm Blast-Hakke Musho Ha -- Just clarifying that this jutsu has no affect on the opponents tenketsu or chakra system
Eight Trigrams Heavenly Whirl Wind-Hakke Tenpuu -- Either bump this up to S-rank and give a large set back to using it, or severely lower its power, because this jutsu has the potential to kill with effective and relative ease no matter who its facing (except a Katon user)
Eight Trigrams Hell Zone- Hakke Makaichitai -- Add in to the downfalls that your character grows blind for each use and the longer he uses it (so if you use it for four posts, youll grow fairly blind); this is obviously permanent
Wind Needle Assault-Fuhari Tokkan -- Give a range, give a downfall, bump up to A-rank
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Post by yasha on Apr 19, 2012 20:15:33 GMT -6
Okay this is getting ridiculous.
Empty Palms has never displayed the ability to hit tenketsu or damage the chakra network. It is capable of aiming it at internal organs.
Everything that needs a range I can do that. No where did it state that gentle fingers had the defensive abilities of protection of the 64 palms bro. Just that it is a variation of the cutting effect.
Gentle Fist Hell Step will be lowered to 40. Meters. The Shunshin jutsu allows nearly instaneous travel from here to there, and Ninja's are able to leap from giant branches floating in the air for meer seconds. I'm sure if an genin Neji can Run over 50 meters and hit someone before they hit the ground my range is fine.
Gentle Fist Soul Tap-Shouldn't even have a rank. A is fine. No Fighting Style in Naruto has a Rank, because it is a style. The techs have styles, but not the ranks. If you can prove to me that styles Like Goken or Jyuuken have a rank sure i will. Give it an S-Rank. Also what I am doing is vastly different from the Rasengan Shuriken. That jutsu destroys their body on a molecular level. I am simply allowing the opponent to still use their chakra instead of shutting it off completely like Gentle Fist does. When hit by gentle fist it is capable of turning off the chakra completely robbing them of the ability to use genjutsu or ninjutsu. Again this isn't a jutsu but a style variation of the gentle fist. Which opens or closes tenketsu and for you to try to give me a backlash effect for this is stupid.
Empty Palm Blast- Again is a variation of the Empty Palm. It has never been used to turn off chakra or hit tenketsu. Only aimed at vitals. So I don't get why you're tell me this when my description says nothing of it.
Heavenly whirlwind- Nearly all jutsu have the potential to kill with ease. This is A-Rank.
-Rest of the Jutsu you say add a a drawback- Why? Not all jutsu that are useful require or need a drawback. Taijutsu mostly isn't one of them. Yet, other Jutsu that are A Rank hold no drawback what so ever except using chakra. I refuse to add drawbacks to A-Rank and B-Rank jutsu until you can give a reason other than it does this or that because simply put. Not even S-Ranks have drawbacks all the time only a few. To try to make it seem to reasonable to give TAIJUTSU of A drawback where most or many Ninjutsu have none isn't right.
Hellzone- So you're attempting to give me an Amatsura, Susanno and Tsyukiomi draw back effect? Okay no. This isn't an external flame that burns for 7 days and is supposed to be as hot as the sun. This isn't a genjutsu that you can only break out of if you're an Uchiha, and last for an infite amount of time in a opposite world. And this damn sure isn't an ability that negates all forms of damage. It is simply this. A visual aid that allows Yasha to see things moving slowly around him with in 40 meters. While allowing him to move swiftly with his reflex and body with in those 40 meters. Something Hyuuga naturally excel at by using gentle fist. I'll be happy to prove this with scans.
Most of the stuff I listed I will work with you with, but most of the bs listed I'm sorry can't/won't do. I apologize if you feel I am being difficult, but most of that is ridiculous.
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Post by ☯Itachai on Apr 20, 2012 7:25:39 GMT -6
Yasha, You are making this highly diffuclut for yourself, all you truly have to do is change the things that Namdia rock has listed if you want to Roleplay or get your stuff approved. He is a Admin for god sake, and he knows what is allowed and what is not based on the rules of the site. After reading your post you claimed to not change some of your things he is trying to make the jutsu not only fair,but to also have jutsu that everyone understands, and can work with. You made the comment of "No Fighting Style in Naruto has a Rank, because it is a style. The techs have styles, but not the ranks. If you can prove to me that styles Like Goken or Jyuuken have a rank sure i will." Well barnone that "Style" you claim to have in place needs a rank on this site techs or not. If you feel that he is being unfair or you can't work with jutsu I guess this site is not for you.
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Post by ☯Itachai on Apr 20, 2012 7:27:01 GMT -6
Let alone, I wouldn't have looked that these jutsu for the simple fact it's not using our template, something that is heavily enforced.
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Post by yasha on Apr 20, 2012 13:38:18 GMT -6
Yeah stated before that I don't have a problem working with some adjustments that are logical and can easily be met down the middle, but if we can't reach an agreement. I will just simply rp somewhere else.
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Post by dub on Apr 20, 2012 14:48:13 GMT -6
I'm going to bump in here and say that meeting "down the middle" is not how we work. I can also guarantee that many other sites will go by this logic as well. The whole reason there are admins and moderators is to make the site not just convenient for you and your creations, but for everyone else here as well. You are a new member. We are the staff. Honestly, you're in no place to negotiate. Ita and Rock are very skilled in their knowledge of how things work here, being part of the staff and creator of the site. They are both VERY experienced and they know what they're doing. There is no negotiation between staff and member that is 'logical' simply because what the staff say goes. Either you can change your jutsu to match what is EXPECTED on the site, or you can simply leave -- that choice is up to you. I'm not going to sit here and say "Oh leave if you want, we don't need you" simply because that's not true. Any person is welcome to the site, but you ARE expected to go by the rules and listen to what the staff here tell you.
Well...yea. Good luck with your jutsu. We're here to help you, not run you off (: I assure you that if you just correct the things stated above that your jutsu will be accepted, and once your character is approved you can roleplay to your heart's content.
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Post by Rock on Apr 20, 2012 15:07:37 GMT -6
Eight Trigrams Heavenly Whirl Wind-Hakke Tenpuu -- Yeah every jutsu has the ability to kill but when I say "ability to kill with ease" I mean the ninja standards. The full range of this jutsu is 30 meters (the "tornado" itself is 20 and it can suhk things around it wihtin 10 meters). It also has the ability to slice through anything from flesh to steel, and trust me, wind can't slice through steel easily; may I add that your jutsu can slice through things like steel easily too, meaning anything weaker than it will be destroyed faster than instantaneous (exaggeration) if they get caught within 10 meters of your vortex. So no, this jutsu isn't staying A-rank unless you severely lower its power.
FYI: there's a weakness to every jutsu ever made, even if one claims there isn't (e.g. Kabuto). You can name any jutsu and I can point out a flaw in it, because its inevitable. Your claim about Taijutsu having no weakness is especially the most, and I'm not trying to be that mean, the biggest fail I've ever heard. All Taijutsu have weaknesses, even the Hyuga's Kaiten has weaknesses. Kaiten only affects things about the ground, or else everytime he'd use it he'd fall into a hemisphere shaped ditch. Therefore, just dig underneath a Kaiten and uppercut the shit out of their nuts. Lets not forget the most obvious drawback of Taijutsu: rarely does it have the ability to strike through ninjutsu and it can do absolutely nothing against Genjutsu. Taijutsu can also lose to other styles of Taijutsu, so again, I'm not really sure where you get your logic from.
Your statement about "styles" not having ranks is odd too, considering that all of Rock Lee's moves (except the ones just recently revealed in the manga) have ranks. Consider the following:
We've seen about three styles of Taijutsu that use hand to hand only. Goken, Juken and Rankanken (sp?). Two of the three are used by Shinobi without Kekkei Genkai while the third [Juken] is. Now, Rock Lee uses Goken and all or almost all of his moves have ranks. Rankanken is used by Jirobu (sp?)/ The style is known as Arhat Fist in English, just in case you didnt know. All of HIS moves are C-rank. So, must be a coincidence, eh? Y'know, that two of the three hand to hand styles shown in the manga have ranks for their techniques. I guess this proves that Styles have ranks huh? The only reason why none of the Juken style techniques have official ranks is because no jutsu performed by or with the help of a Kekkei Genkai (like dojutsu) have ranks. Amaterasu doesn't even have a rank, but we know it's S-rank. Anyhow, like Ita said, regardless if it doesn't have a rank in the series, it has a rank here, so you're going to change that, period.
As for the difference between Soul Tap and Spiral Shuriken, yes what you say about the RS is true, but when you damage the chakra circulatory system and the tenketsu like that, you cannot heal them by normal means, as even Tsunade had trouble healing Naruto's own hand (which only his chakra circulatory system was damaged by) and it wasn't even fully damaged, just messed up a bit. She also said if he continued to use the jutsu he wouldn't be able to use jutsu at all (even though he clearly godmodded past that limit). Anyhow, tenketsu will not heal themselves, so even if you claim that you're "allowing" your opponent to still use jutsu, even if for a limited amount of time, there's no way to heal it without a highly experienced medic (S-rank medic), so essentially you're permanently destroying the opponents ability to be a ninja, just like a Rasenshuriken can. And this jutsu allows you to do it against all the Tenketsu, so in reality, your jutsu is just as powerful as any S-rank in terms of it's potential. And fyi, once you pierce a tenketsu like that, your Juken wont be able to fix it.
Hellzone -- You can prove it with scans but I guarentee you it'll be from the anime, not the manga. The manga has never stated that the Byakugan has a natural ability to see things with a heightened sense of timing like the Sharingan can, nor does the Naruto Wikia say this either. Besides that one jutsu performed in the anime, I have no reason of believing that the Byakugan has this kind of power, and so therefore, your jutsu is technically wrong in the sense that it's using its "natural ability". Why do you think Rock Lee wanted to use the Gates as a secret move against Neji? Because the Byakugan does not have the power to see that kind of ability with ease like a Sharingan can. The Byakugan's power of insight that surpasses the Sharingan's is only in range and how well it can perceive the chakra circulatory system in detail, as well as its abilities to see through objects. So, with this stated, your jutsu will actually be increasing your eye sight's power in order to perceive things slower, going above the Byakugan's original power, so all drawbacks I've given you for this will stay.
Lastly, as for the things that I said like one jutsu not having the ability of defense like Hinata's, or the two jutsu not being able to hit the chakra system or tenketsu, calm the fuhk down man. I know it didn't say that, but I was clarifying it because there have been people in the past who have abused their jutsu by excluding info and then stating later
"Oh well I didn't have to include it, it's automatically understood, trololol"
Anyhow, you're wrong on one thing: your Empty Palms technique can't have the power of striking the organs unless it has the power to puncture the skin. The reason why the Hyuga can strike the organs so easily without damaging the surface skin is because the organs are tied to the chakra circulatory system, and so striking that and/or the tenketsu will damage the organs as well. So you'll have to fix your Empty Palm techinque and its variation to accomodate this.
Everything else is fine
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Post by yasha on Apr 20, 2012 16:08:38 GMT -6
Yes, and even the Flying Swallow can cut through Iron, and Rock. I'll link you to the jutsu if need be. I'll edit it to S since I am removing Hellzone. Re-read what I said. I never said they didn't have a weakness. Not even S-Ranks have drawbacks all the time only a few. To try to make it seem to reasonable to give TAIJUTSU of A drawback where most or many Ninjutsu have none isn't right. No where did I say Taijutsu has no weakness what so ever. I said that it really doesn't have a drawback. I think you took it out of context and assumed I meant nothing can beat Taijutsu and decided to list other stuff that could when I said no such thing. There is nothing to change, because I gave it a rank in the first place, and again you proved my point. Styles themselves do not have ranks but moves/techniques do. That's what I've been trying to state to you, but you ignored what I said. I had no problem adding a rank (I already have before this debate begun), and added one before you even asked me to. My problem was that you suggested that I hurt myself by using Jyuuken to hurt myself when I target another's tenketsu. As you deem puncturing tenketsu similar to the FRS. Which isn't the case. The only difference between my gentle fist and the original is that I allow them to still use their jutsu while yes allowing their chakra to leak, instead of shutting off their chakra completely. Also you even yourself did not rank your style of Taijutsu. No one has. The moves have been ranked, but the style itself is just a definition of what it does no different from mine except. I don't have techniques. But this part doesn't matter anyway. I appericate the offer, but here is something you may have missed. The problem with what the Byakugan, can do or has done is all true with what you have said, but we are what in this RP? One Thousand Years into the future. The gentic code of the Byakugan could possibly very well change or become better. As Neji and Hinata's Byakugan were orginally just able to see around in a 50 meter radius. Yet two years later they can see well over 50+ meters. They are noted to have the strongest Byakugans. While Neji is stated the most gifted in the clan. Just something I'd add, but it's all good I'm removing Hellzone. Mhm Understood bro. Just a misunderstanding. No Sir, I am not wrong. From the Naruto Wikia naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Eight_Trigrams_Vacuum_PalmThis technique is similar in practice to Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven, but has a specific target rather than a general area. To perform it, the user precisely pinpoints the enemy's vital points with the Byakugan and releases a high-speed palm thrust. A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit.Mhm. Seems like we reach an agreement down between. I thank you for your time and helpfulness. I know I was a bit (maybe alot) difficult. I apologize and have begun making adjustments.
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Post by Rock on Apr 20, 2012 16:27:38 GMT -6
I will admit, after going back and rerereading everything again, I actually did misread a few things you stated, it was kind of hard to read your sentences. For the Gentle Fingers "Taijutsu-style" since it's actually a style and not a jutsu itself, I'm actually gonna have you take it out completely and instead put it into your "Special Abilities" section of your app, where you can explain how the style itself slightly differs (as you already have). This eliminates the need for an extra jutsu and a rank to something that isn't a jutsu itself. Although technically styles do have ranks too. Kugutsu no Jutsu is a fighting style and is typically rated as a C-rank. Rankanken is also a style and is also rated a C-rank, so technically I am still right, styles do have ranks, but yeah. Just remove this jutsu and put it into the other part of your character app. On the side, I've made three styles of Taijutsu so far on the site. I didn't post any "rank" for the style on two of them because there is nothing in our app that asks for the style's rank, because frankly that's not important. Although I did give a "rank" to a Clan Taijutsu style, that being C-S rank. I basically just ranked it based on the jutsu it had. Rankanken only has C-rank jutsu so its only a C-rank style. Membunuh Berat is a more versatile style so it has many ranks, so it's ranks C - S.
When it came to the taijutsu having no weaknesses or near no weaknesses thing that I assumed is what you said, I did misread this too. In the last sentence when it said "ninjutsu" having little to no weaknesses/drawbacks, I thought it read "Taijutsu" and I read the rest of the sentence a bit wrong, too. However, all ninjutsu have some sort of weakness (whether it be against the user itself or it having a weakness such as a wind jutsu is weak against fire), so your claim to this is still wrong. However I will withdraw most of what I said considering I misunderstood what you said. However, all jutsu (even Edo Tensei) have weaknesses (even though Edo Tensei doesn't have many weaknesses when being used, besides chakra cost). I still stand though that all jutsu must have a weak point on this site. Edo Tensei is banned for a reason and it won't be being unbanned and usable to members ever.
Lastly the claim I made on the Empty Palm. You made your point there so I'll withdraw my judgment on that one.
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Post by Rock on Apr 20, 2012 16:32:06 GMT -6
Oh and sorry, but you're going to have to change your Jutsu template to use ours. I didn't have a problem with it but Itachai seems really keen on having you use ours, so go ahead and make those adjustments
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Post by yasha on Apr 21, 2012 19:37:05 GMT -6
Template Changed to Site. Hellzone and Soul Tap Removed Jutsu Ranks bumped All done.
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Post by yasha on May 9, 2012 10:41:54 GMT -6
Still not approved? Um can someone accept this please I've done everything, and I thought it would be accepted by now ._.
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